Responding to Christian about why there was not really a "sacrifice" , nor a debt owed, nor a debt paid.
@paladinselfdefense re " Most Christians believe that God intentionally limits His power often - especially in the case of the incarnated Christ."
-- Of course. They simply must take that position; once they realize that's the only way to explain certain problems. But nothing anyone can propose about this topic ... un-does nor renders-moot the fact that if Any-Entity pays themselves a debt someone owes them, it's the same as nobody paying the debt. And if Any-Entity didn't really even stop-having anything, then no "sacrifice" transpired. In the context of Trinitarian dogma, the whole thing was Puppet Theater; literally. A "God" with Multiple Personalities. Dom Personality sends his Son personality to puppet a Kosher Jewish Meat Puppet for about 30 mostly-wasted years. And then the Sub spends a fairly short amount of time sowing confusion and division among mortal men. And then the Sub (under orders from the Dom) provokes local mobs into "killing" the non-sentient meat-puppet. Sub-personality then spends a couple of days (less than three) not-animating that puppet. Next, Sub sneaks back into a cave to pick it back up, and then calls that a "death and resurrection". He made sure nobody saw that body resurrect. Even though he wanted everyone to believe it happened. So then he hangs out for a while, does some magic tricks, and then floats his puppet into the sky. -All so that a Father-deity can "forgive" lucky-winners of the "guess the real dogma" (or else burn forever) contest; a game every human is forced to play, despite the fact that none of us ever signed up for this. And "forgive" those people for what? For the crime of being CREATED imperfect. So then the Creator-Deity is blaming humans for the Creator-Deity's own choices. As a result, he needs a convoluted and completely nonsensical way to render himself capable of forgiving his victims.
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