Yet Another MAGAmaniacle Monster Postures As A Beacon Of Moral Clarity And Authority

In the comments, under this news story:
[Link]
 IndyStar 

Watch as two Indiana pastors on opposing ends of the spectrum on Christian Nationalism debate the role Christianity should have in governing and society.

In this segment, they take on the question," What role do Christian morals play in policy?""

A MAGA pedo-enabling, racism-sheltering, Christian-fascist wrote:

"Matthias claimed that we can’t force morality through laws when that is precisely what laws are intended to do, e.g. murder and theft are illegal. " - Elijah Condellone
-- My reply: 

No.

Those laws are not predicated on "forcing morality" onto anyone.

Instead, they are an attempt (based on "consent of the governed" and democracy, NOT moral-authoritarianism) to maximize good health and good function for citizens.

They are based on this idea:

Each person must have the same rights and the same degree of those rights as all other citizens.

-Which then logically requires that each person's rights must end at the equal boundary of everyone else's.

Example: Each person's right to swing their arm wildly in the air ... ends at the outer boundary of everyone else's equal personal space; such that nobody is caused to reasonably feel threatened or trespassed upon.

Notice:
That guiding principle is not found anywhere in a "Bible".

Morality for adults is different than morality for 5-year-olds.

Little children are limited to "Father says".

Adults are the people who have matured beyond that, into rationally realizing the functional necessity of social and societal equity.

In the fables about Moses, that cult leader made the mistake of violently abusing millions of people like hated children and sheep.
-Thereby stunting those people's individual and collective potential to mature beyond the need for "Father says" as the basis of their behavioral incentives and limits.
-----------

"But where do we get the moral standard that these acts are wrong?
The Ten Commandments."
--
Not at all.
And frankly, it amazes me that a grown man in the 21 Century would say such a thing.

 
-----------
"In any case, a balanced approach is critical to understanding the extent to which Christianity influenced our founding. "
--
History
did not unfold
the way you think it did.

However, it's also moot. Because the **now** belongs to the people of **now**.

We really should not let long-dead men call dibs on our lives.

You're just trying to use imaginary, entitled, authoritarian figures of history as puppet-kings for you to power-grab with.
"Some special dudes from centuries ago wanted me and my special-people-KKKlub to be in charge of everyone".

I don't think most people are dumb enough to fall for that.
-------

"Sadly, most of us never got the truth in public and higher education."
--
Great.
More unhinged, anti-intellectual conspiracy theories.
That's just what we need.
-------------------------
"And this has lead to division where there need not be any or at least not to the level we see today."
--
That's what all the religions say:
"If everyone would just surrender to us, we would finally have peace."
-------------------------

"Most won’t take the time to read the article linked below, even though you would benefit greatly from it."
---
Most people probably realize that the Heritage Foundation (authors of Project 2025) is a religious-extremist, authoritarian, Orwellian propaganda machine, spawned by the same culture-warriors that created Manifest Destiny, the Confederacy, the Southern Baptist Convention, the KKK, and the Third Reich;
hell-bent on white-Christian conquest, towards the ultimate goal of paving the way for "God" to destroy all life on Earth.
-------------
Re:

"English Common Law is a system evolved from the unification of legal customs across England after the Norman Conquest in 1066. Moses received The Ten Commandments in approximately 1446 BCE, long before English Common Law was established. In fact, English Common Law was influenced by Biblical principles."
- Elijah Condellone

---------

1. It is the overwhelming consensus among bible scholars and archaeologists that Moses is either mostly or entirely mythical.

2. Prohibitions against theft, murder, and perjury predate the Torah by thousands of years.

3. The Hebrew texts are not Christian texts.

 
When Christians speak as if that's their Bible, it's like a Mormon calling dibs on the New Testament.
Or like Columbus "discovering" America.

It was already there.

It belongs to people who were there first.

Your cult just roars through the centuries, stealing shit. 

Holidays.
Ancient stories.
Doctrines.
Laws.
Basic concepts like family and marriage.
Basic emotions like love, peace, and joy.
Land.
Even other people's body parts.

"Oooh. That's pretty. 
Oh, that thing over there looks useful!

Let's pretend we invented, discovered, or received it from our GOD!
That way, we can use that as a flimsy justification to dictate terms of usage for everyone who uses any of those things!"

Ya'll colonizers need to stop planting flags of ownership in other people's stuff.
Time and time again.
That's all you assholes ever do.
Steal, rebrand, and control;
all to extract power and money from everyone unlucky enough to end up in church-mafia controlled territories. 

And all the while, you malignant clinical Narcissists dare to claim to be the originators and champions of all human values. 

 
4. The only reason such things are illegal in America today is because rational people greatly insist on maximizing health and function for themselves, their families, and their communities ... based entirely on wanting their lives to not-suck any more than they have to.

That is also the reason that MOST of the "commandments" have zero similarity to any of our laws.
Otherwise, it would be illegal to wear mixed fabrics, or eat shellfish, or boil a baby goat in its mother's milk.

We'd also have to stone to death every young bride who doesn't bleed on her wedding night.

Nobody wakes up in the morning thinking "Man, I can't think of a good reason to care about how safe my neighborhood is ... except that some character in Iron Age religious stories said his favorite deity made a list.".