When Yet Another Christian Pretending Their Abusive Behaviors Count As Love

On someone's personal Facebook page, that person posted this meme: 

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Aloe Vera

Usually they call themselves "Christian". And I feel perfectly comfortable saying this as having been raised dogmatically Christian and breaking away from it.

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Eden Jane

so you let one person dictate your entire outlook on others of a different religion than you. Wow. That's really sad. I hope you can overcome that and heal so you can have a happy life. I'm so sorry.

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Mathias Hennion

Aloe Vera there's no bigger hate than 'Christian love'

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John Harris

You stated "calling yourself a Christian doesn't make you one no difference than calling your self a dog. Where is the life to back it up? Very simple look at the fruit in one's life. Does it resemble the fruit of The Holy Spirit. You have to know wher… 

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James Apperson

John Harris

The range (and degrees) of personality traits that Christians call "the fruits of the spirit" ...

are the same for Christians as for Hindus, Muslims, Deists, Wiccans, agonistic atheists, anti-theists, etc..

If it was true that an all-powerful force [of perfect love] was active in a very exclusive and powerful way ...

within people of an exclusively true

* "faith"-narrative,

* faith-culture,

or

* theistic "relationship"-paradigm...

then:

There would be a statistically significant [and thus, easily verified] correlation of people in those systems being

* the most loving,

* the most ethical,

* the most responsible,

* the most fact-checking,

* the most logical,

* the healthiest,

etc...

compared to literally all other faith-relevant demographics.

So it's not as if we 'just don't know'.

We do know.

We do know the claim is untrue.

And we surely all understand (don't we?) how unfair it is

to denigrate all other faith-relevant sociodemographics

as:

being comparatively and significantly handicapped in their respective character virtues.

What you are pitching as something pretty (# marketing)

is socially divisive propaganda.

It's designed to prop up one particular (but still nebulous) religious domain

as morally superior to all other people-groups and worldviews.

[I have more to say about this. There are some other mental 'slight of hand' gimmicks in what you said. But that will have to wait until I have more time]

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John Harris

James Apperson everyone has a choice. Definitely not marketing anything. I choose to love The True and Living God & love people. Life is short & simple for me. Take it as you may. Enjoy yours.

[My further reply] In reply to "everyone has a choice. Definitely not marketing anything. I choose to love The True and Living God & love people. Life is short & simple for me. Take it as you may. Enjoy yours."

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Just so we're clear about this:

1.
When it comes to beliefs (or: perceptions) about "God", literally nobody has a choice.

The physics that generate perceptions ... are entirely automated.

Want proof that 'belief' doesn't work the way you think it does?
 
TRY (really really try) to believe that tiny people live inside of your refrigerator.
They hide whenever you open that door.

You will not be able to choose to believe it. Because beliefs don't form as a matter of choice. 

2. Regarding "yours".

You made it my business (and everyone else's) when you put "yours" into a public space for consideration and discourse.

Solicit a response = risk getting a response you don't like.

It's not as if I read your diary.

I'm not prying into your personal private matters of faith.
Instead, let's notice how it played out:

First,
some random people on the internet express their personal views about a subject in a public space.

Next,
you tried to assert your preceptions over theirs, AND from a position of moral superiority;
instead of engaging with them as equals.

Next,
I noticed how unreasonable, unequitable and unkind that is. 

In reply, 
you spoke down to me as if I were making the laughable mistake of thinking anyone should care what I think.

With that,
you then deflected and engaged in gaslighting.

That was immediately after you posted to the discussion where you felt like people SHOULD care what YOU think. 

With that,
you took a final moment to vouch for your own moral character, as you postured yet again as a beacon of light and love in a dark world.

And because clinical Narcissts attract other Narcissists AND Flying-Monkey personalities like moths to a flame,
another religious fundamentalist (from either one of those peronality-types) really 💓'd watching you behave that way. 
  
Just as importantly, ...

I don't rent billboards.

I don't stage protests at religious events.

I don't heckle preachers in their own church services.

I don't go door-to-door to tell people the Good News that moral-authoritarian religions are all PSY-OPs.

I don't support political candidates or legislature that force others to comply with my views about "God".

In other words, I don't behave like Christians.

I set healthy boundaries.

I honor those same boundaries for everyone else; proactively.

I mind my own business, at all times.

3. You (along with everyone else who has to share societies together) are ethically obligated to *not* be so simple about ethics.

When you say things in public spaces that promote ***HATE*** and then market that (yes, "market" is the correct word) as "love",
don't be surprised when an actual adult calls you out for it.
4.
Your entire theology is built from lies other fallible humans fed into your head. 

You did not actually consent to that. Nobody does. 

 They hijacked your mind and then tricked you into thinking you freely chose it.
In doing so, they weaponized you against all other humans.
They even weaponized you against yourself.
They also went the extra mile to ensure you wouldn't realize it. 
[LINK to how that works] 

"You're a conquered mind; 
trying to conquer other minds". 
 - Greydon Square 

The proseltyzing you do IS an act of violence.

If you cared as much about other humans as you imagine caring,
you would call yourself into question about these things.

You don't. 

For Christian-sheep who do NOT have a Major Personality Disorder,
it's your religion that's making them so hateful. 
 
Whereas,
for Christian-wolves who DO have a Major Personality Disorder,
your religion is a license to behave how you were going to behave regardless, 
except that it makes you come out of domestic hiding to also abuse total strangers. 

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