Bible Books Which Criticize Their Own People Are Not Evidence For Divine Authorship.
Responding to:
"In that book they described themselves as the idolaters, murderers of prophets who God send, crucify Gods only begotten son, and magnify their evil deeds... Why did they wrote like this???
Because that book is inspired by God, not Peoples."
- Alwin A
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I invite you to consider a different understanding.
First, "The Bible" never says that "The Bible" is inspired.
Here is a very recent (short) video
from a popular Bible Scholar
explaining this.
Also, nothing in the Hebrew religious texts
say anything about Jesus.
Moving forward from there,
...
In the Hebrew religious texts, men who made strong accusations against their own followers
were trying to blame those followers for why their tribe's lives were bad.
Those leaders didn't believe in accepting responsibility for being really bad leaders.
So they were always looking for someone-or-something else to blame.
Sometimes they blamed their own followers.
They also blamed magical curses and magical entities.
Those people were very superstitious.
Random things happened; like diseases, deaths, failed crops, natural disasters, etc..
When those random things happened,
their leaders used those situations as opportunities to scare followers into more compliant obedience to religious authority.
They'd say thing like "Because some of you have broken some of our religious laws, our god(s) have cursed us. This is why we don't currently have enough to eat".
Also, non-random things happened; like being unwelcomed in lands they migrated to.
Those people (the ones we're calling the "Hebrews" or the "Israelites") wanted their own nation;
but every region was already claimed by other people.
So they'd move into areas without being invited, and then refuse to get along.
They were a very ethically and religiously racist people.
They caused problems for the societies they migrated to.
Those societies pushed back.
Those Jews refused to take reasonable blame for causing that problem.
Instead, their leaders blamed superstitious curses for their troubles, and said those curses were caused by violations of religious laws.
That's why they kept writing about violations of religious laws.
In other words, that's why their own books are so often critical of their own people.
They were also hoping a "messenger from God" (a human "messiah") would rise up (from among them) to lead them into military conquest over the governments (one after the next) which they felt oppressed by.
But such a conqueror (the "messiah") never showed up.
Those religions never matured past dysfunctional ways of thinking.
Thus, they never matured past those dysfunctional ways of behaving.
Thus, today, the only reason the nation of (new) "Israel" exists is because of a religious culture that moved into a region it felt 'entitled' to (based on fictional religious histories). Once there, they began to systematically displace the people who were already living there.
The leaders of the Jewish people never wanted to co-exist peacefully.
That's because their religious books heavily promote:
* very bad ways of thinking about non-Jews,
* a sense of literal entitlement to other people's land,
and
* very violent "solutions" to their ego-and-greed -driven need to colonize and conquer.
-Partly because they believe their deity can't bless "a nation" which doesn't even exist. So they finally made it exist.
The means-by-which those people established a "Jewish kingdom on Earth" (aka "Israel")
happened very very differently than their own religious texts foretell.
But they don't talk about that, because it disproves their prophecies.
Establishing such a kingdom was ALSO supposed to immediately result in instant and everlasting peace for the Jews.
That didn't happened "as prophesied" either.
Granted, they were forced to migrate into one region, for safety and healing, after the Holocaust. So that part was reasonable.
They did need a safe place to live and rebuild. And that territory did still have plenty of room.
But while they were migrating to that area, they had a CHOICE to make. They could either forge an alliance with the people who already lived there, as good fellow-citizens, or they could be total dicks and try to take over. They chose to be total dicks and try to take over. It's also important to note: It was Christianity which caused that holocaust in the first place.
And the reason for that is because both the Hebrew and Christian texts promote very deep bigotries.
Their books promote hate; hate which they market as "love".
Their books teach people to treat their own religion(s) like a race.
Both religious themes (Judaic and Christian) are: * artificial social constructs, * treated as-if those constructs are an objective reality,
* wherein all members' lives are worth more than all non-members lives;
worthy of more love, respect, power, better lives, and longer lives.
These are literally "Master Race" theologies.
The earliest followers of Jesus were raised as Jews. That's where they learned to be so racist, violent, and superstitious.
Thousands of years later, humanity is still suffering from how all of that entitled awfulness has ripple-effected forward across time and space like a tsunami.
It's why Christianity has always been psychologically violent.
They learned it from the Jewish religion; from which they emerged.
It's also why the psychological violence of both (Christian and Judaic religious frameworks) turn into physical violence against citizens; whenever they ascend into power.
Psychological violence
inevitably manifests physically;
given any opportunity to do so.
Granted, many individual Judaic-believers and Christians are pretty nice people.
I say "many", because there's really no way to track those statistics.
However,
it's important to realize that those people are kind *despite of* (in other words, in divergence from) their religions;
not mostly because of their religions.
The only times, really, when those religions cause someone to become really kind-hearted
is when that's a 'trauma response' caused by the awfulness of those religions.
"In that book they described themselves as the idolaters, murderers of prophets who God send, crucify Gods only begotten son, and magnify their evil deeds... Why did they wrote like this???
Because that book is inspired by God, not Peoples."
- Alwin A
-------------------------
Alwin A I understand your reasoning.
I invite you to consider a different understanding.
First, "The Bible" never says that "The Bible" is inspired.
Here is a very recent (short) video
from a popular Bible Scholar
explaining this.
Also, nothing in the Hebrew religious texts
say anything about Jesus.
Moving forward from there,
...
In the Hebrew religious texts, men who made strong accusations against their own followers
were trying to blame those followers for why their tribe's lives were bad.
Those leaders didn't believe in accepting responsibility for being really bad leaders.
So they were always looking for someone-or-something else to blame.
Sometimes they blamed their own followers.
They also blamed magical curses and magical entities.
Those people were very superstitious.
Random things happened; like diseases, deaths, failed crops, natural disasters, etc..
When those random things happened,
their leaders used those situations as opportunities to scare followers into more compliant obedience to religious authority.
They'd say thing like "Because some of you have broken some of our religious laws, our god(s) have cursed us. This is why we don't currently have enough to eat".
Also, non-random things happened; like being unwelcomed in lands they migrated to.
Those people (the ones we're calling the "Hebrews" or the "Israelites") wanted their own nation;
but every region was already claimed by other people.
So they'd move into areas without being invited, and then refuse to get along.
They were a very ethically and religiously racist people.
They caused problems for the societies they migrated to.
Those societies pushed back.
Those Jews refused to take reasonable blame for causing that problem.
Instead, their leaders blamed superstitious curses for their troubles, and said those curses were caused by violations of religious laws.
That's why they kept writing about violations of religious laws.
In other words, that's why their own books are so often critical of their own people.
But such a conqueror (the "messiah") never showed up.
Those religions never matured past dysfunctional ways of thinking.
Thus, they never matured past those dysfunctional ways of behaving.
Thus, today, the only reason the nation of (new) "Israel" exists is because of a religious culture that moved into a region it felt 'entitled' to (based on fictional religious histories). Once there, they began to systematically displace the people who were already living there.
The leaders of the Jewish people never wanted to co-exist peacefully.
That's because their religious books heavily promote:
* very bad ways of thinking about non-Jews,
* a sense of literal entitlement to other people's land,
and
* very violent "solutions" to their ego-and-greed -driven need to colonize and conquer.
-Partly because they believe their deity can't bless "a nation" which doesn't even exist. So they finally made it exist.
The means-by-which those people established a "Jewish kingdom on Earth" (aka "Israel")
happened very very differently than their own religious texts foretell.
But they don't talk about that, because it disproves their prophecies.
Establishing such a kingdom was ALSO supposed to immediately result in instant and everlasting peace for the Jews.
That didn't happened "as prophesied" either.
Granted, they were forced to migrate into one region, for safety and healing, after the Holocaust. So that part was reasonable.
They did need a safe place to live and rebuild. And that territory did still have plenty of room.
But while they were migrating to that area, they had a CHOICE to make. They could either forge an alliance with the people who already lived there, as good fellow-citizens, or they could be total dicks and try to take over. They chose to be total dicks and try to take over. It's also important to note: It was Christianity which caused that holocaust in the first place.
And the reason for that is because both the Hebrew and Christian texts promote very deep bigotries.
Their books promote hate; hate which they market as "love".
Their books teach people to treat their own religion(s) like a race.
Both religious themes (Judaic and Christian) are: * artificial social constructs, * treated as-if those constructs are an objective reality,
* wherein all members' lives are worth more than all non-members lives;
worthy of more love, respect, power, better lives, and longer lives.
These are literally "Master Race" theologies.
The earliest followers of Jesus were raised as Jews. That's where they learned to be so racist, violent, and superstitious.
Thousands of years later, humanity is still suffering from how all of that entitled awfulness has ripple-effected forward across time and space like a tsunami.
It's why Christianity has always been psychologically violent.
They learned it from the Jewish religion; from which they emerged.
It's also why the psychological violence of both (Christian and Judaic religious frameworks) turn into physical violence against citizens; whenever they ascend into power.
Psychological violence
inevitably manifests physically;
given any opportunity to do so.
Granted, many individual Judaic-believers and Christians are pretty nice people.
I say "many", because there's really no way to track those statistics.
However,
it's important to realize that those people are kind *despite of* (in other words, in divergence from) their religions;
not mostly because of their religions.
The only times, really, when those religions cause someone to become really kind-hearted
is when that's a 'trauma response' caused by the awfulness of those religions.
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