Christian Tries To Spin Their Emotional Blackmail Into A Kindness.
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Donn Gable
Actually: Because He's so great God sacrificed himself out of agape to provide us the free-will choice of Romans 10:9 to save ourselves from our awful sinful choices.
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Donn Gable
It's right there in the Bible... Keep reading!!
James Apperson
Meanwhile, ...
As for Romans 10:9,
it says "If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved".
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There are billions of unique versions of "The God of Abraham" in our world;
one version for each person who "believes in" one of those.
And yet,
none of them are real.
none of them are real.
The point of the meme wasn't to call out a "God" for his BS. Because that would be as silly as calling out Darth Vader for his poor life choices.
The point of the meme was to call out the entire domain of authoritarian and Trinitarian Christianity for
a.) the awful way they see us,
b.) the awful things they say about us,
c.) how wildly irrational their entire religious premise is,
and
d.) the emotional blackmail inherent to their grift.
Meanwhile, ...
As for Romans 10:9,
it says "If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved".
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If they really believed and taught that, then:
they'd be forcing themselves to endorse literally every religious faction which professes literally any version of "Jesus".
They'd have to endorse Roman Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Westboro Baptists, Pentecostals, the entire Southern Baptist Convention, etc..
But they don't.
Because they don't *really* believe that if you say those words, then no matter what you mean by those words, it will function like a magic spell that obligates the creator of the universe to spare you from the gross amount of violence he was otherwise planning for you. ---
re "to save ourselves from our awful sinful choices."
re "to save ourselves from our awful sinful choices."
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You think you have the dirt on me?
Spill it then.
Now, you can say "oh, not me. But my GOD does!".
But you'd still be assuming that I've actually DONE anything that warrants severely violent and eternal consequence.
And you can't possible know that I have.
In fact, nobody ever has. Because it's not possible to rack up an eternity of moral debts for finite bad-deeds.
In fact, some people go their entire lives without committing a single serious evil against anyone.
What happens then?
Does Jesus cry and pout, mumbling "if they don't start doing some serious sinning, I will have died for nothing!"?
Or does he say "even the pettiest of trivial offense, and even just mere thought-crimes and unapproved-feelings is enough to warrant severe and eternal punishment!"?
Meanwhile, who CHOSE to create me to be imperfect?
It sure wasn't my choice.
Why should any human be responsible to a "God" for the fact-and-consequences of that Entity's own choices?
Meanwhile, if we really take an honest look at Trinitarian rhetoric,
Meanwhile, if we really take an honest look at Trinitarian rhetoric,
"God" didn't die at all.
That's as close as the story comes to any "death".
A "God" with multiple Person-alities.
A Daddy-Dom Personality,
a Sub-Son Personality
and a Ghost-voyeur personality.
Daddy personality talks to his Son personality and says "I'm finding it impossible to forgive billions of humans for what they DID TO ME ... by allowing me to make them imperfect.
I can't accept responsibility for my own choices.
So now I need a way to posture as the victim.
I also need to turn everyone's life into a twisted game with arbitrary rules, so I can say "someone has to die" before I can forgive randomly-few people what *I* did to *them*.
For that, I'll need one of my personalities to put on a Puppet Show where a meat-puppet gets killed.
That way, I can be thanked for a fake-sacrifice, and thanked for not committing eternal violence against a tiny number of people who lucky-guess:
* that I even exist,
* that any of this really happened,
and also lucky-guess
* the correct ways to interpret everything about this in a fantastically non-credible book I'll write but will forget to sign."
That way, I can be thanked for a fake-sacrifice, and thanked for not committing eternal violence against a tiny number of people who lucky-guess:
* that I even exist,
* that any of this really happened,
and also lucky-guess
* the correct ways to interpret everything about this in a fantastically non-credible book I'll write but will forget to sign."
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