made sure to NOT provide the parenting they needed,
and then let an evil arson-instigator into the garden.
The arson-snake tells the truth about literally everything,
but Magic-Dad wants us to gaslight each other to say he lied.
Next,
one of the kids LOVES Magic-Daddy so much that she wants to be more like him.
But we're supposed to gaslight each other about that TOO.
So she plays with Daddy's matches that he purposefully put there to "totally not tempt her with"
(again, more gaslighting).
In the story, he ADMITS those two kids were not morally-responsible agents until AFTER they ~did the thing~.
But he wants us all to SAY they understood the difference between right and wrong BEFORE they ~did the thing~
so that he can justify holding them morally culpable
(more gaslighting).
And then he (Magic-Dad; who knows and sees literally everything)
pretends to be totally surprised by how it all goes down,
(more theatrics)
in order to orchestrate himself as a victim,
so that he'll have some 'dirt' on everyone (who wasn't even there),
just so he can emotionally blackmail us all about what we all "OWE" him (as a debt)
for what "we" did to him
(twice; if you count the later crucifixion; plus every time we've "wronged him" by the imperfections he created us with)
even though "we" weren't even there in Eden, nor at the crucifixion,
and even though a MOUNTAIN of forensic evidence would eventually rise up the sky and TESTIFY that the Adam and Eve story never literally happened.
But we're supposed to gaslight each other about that too.
-And all so that he can end up being hailed as a
HERO,
when (according to these unsubstantiated and non-credible rumors) he offers to RESCUE US
from the earthly-situation he willfully orchestrated in the first place,
AND "save" us from the hell-realm he placed in our path,
on the conveyor-belt of our life
(with every person having an un-just-ly different amount of opportunity to arrive at the "correct" beliefs).
And all anyone has to do to BE "recued" (from HIM)
(that's called a "Protection Racket", btw)
is:chance-stumble
into just the right version
of just the right "totally not a religion",
preached by just the right "messenger",
said just the right way
(or a totally inept way;
in which case
we should just make-believe the random messenger was impressive),
at just the right time in each targeted-person's life,
(most targets being specifically chosen based on being especially vulnerable to manipulation)
and then LISTEN to that message
BEFORE we are giving a reason to even START listening (which makes absolutely no sense),
and then arbitrarily choose to believe that guy (whichever random-man approaches us in the park offering us forever-candy),
but making sure we do NOT randomly choose a "fake messenger" to listen to,
even though the "fake messengers" say literally exactly the same stuff.
[Granted,
the fine-print will be different.
But the fake-version fine-print will be no more reasonable or believable than the real-version fine-print.
Plus, most people who get signed up for a lifetime membership won't even find out what the fine-print is until later.
It will also be advertised as "totally free";
even though it's actually quiet costly.
And it will be advertised as "not requiring any work";
enough thought a LOT of special efforts will be needed for everyone who signs up.
And it will be advertised as "not requiring a list of rules we have to follow";
even though there actually IS a long list of stuff you better "obey" ... "or else".]
about everything said in random-people's emotionally-preferred ancient book of rumors.
And what the central message?
Well, that depends on which part of it (and which interpretation) you arbitrarily give priority to.
But according to most American, Conservative, Christian Fundamentalists, ...
The central message is that you better "choose to believe"
(which isn't really even how beliefs are formed.
But we're supposed to gaslight each other about that too)
that a Jewish Carpenter in the iron age
was secretly one of a GOD's multiple personalities.
And that SUB-personality
was sent
by his own own psychological fractured Daddy-Dom personality ...
to make a Jewish Meat-Puppet walk and talk,
after hijacking an underage girls' sexual anatomy as an INCUBATOR (in-which to grow that meaty HUSK)
and then putting her through a hellish life for years,
(The Creator of the Universe ... as a deadbeat dad),
just so his son-personality
can pretend to be a human, and then intentionally pl$$ off
the locals,
(so that he could AGAIN pretend to be a victim to circumstances he pre-planned and went out of his way to ensure)
just to orchestrate meat-puppet-theater
were what LOOKS LIKE a human "dies"...
(and again, we're supposed to gaslight each other;
this time to say "he really died")
as a human sacrifice
based on the pagan cult-ritual of "scapegoating",
to appease a wrathful deity
who can't otherwise "find it in his heart" to FORGIVE US.
Forgives us?
For what?
For HOW > HE > MADE > US.
According to this Big-Budget, Theatrical con-game
(err ... I mean "totally legit real situation"),
he set up the EARTH and the people-pieces on the Earth-board ...as a BOARD GAME; with arbitrary rules that force himself to kill and torture us all "except" for the few lucky winners.
But first, we must let fallible men merely SAY it's all legit
and then decide for us what it all means.
Granted, they'll "reason from the scriptures" and encourage us to "make up our minds", as they claim to explain "what it clearly means".
But they know damn-well that if someone in a rival group gets to "explain it", the prospective convert will have their perceptions shaped by
"that other guy" instead.
This is, after all, exactly why apologetic-preachers want to make sure "a correct guy" gets to shape our lens about it.
And WHY must we rely on that?
Because the Creator Of the Universe
authored a collection of books
that are neither credible nor self-explanatory.
But he got bored with talking to people directly so now we have to take some random fallible dude's word for it (whatever any random-version, self-appointed "messenger" wants to say) ...
OR ELSE the Cosmic Hero (who couldn't be bothered to speak for himself
[Although, we're supposed to pretend he is]
and who couldn't bother to send proof for any of it
[Although, we're supposed to pretend he did]
will feel "personally rejected".
And then he'll say "look at what you're making me DO to you" as he commits eternal violence against us
(and throws us away like trash forever)
but blames his victims.
And all so that a tiny tiny fraction of everyone who ever lives
can become incapable of ever having an unapproved thought, feeling, or choice ever again,
for rest of time,
while they spend forever as utterly-dependent man-babies (children in adult bodies)
and "totally not praise-bots",
in "heavenly" communist cult-kingdom,
making sure Dear Leader feels rightly appreciated for how GREAT he is,
because that's the only reason he had kids in the first place.
- To satisfy his "totally not a need" to have his greatness perpetually affirmed by lesser-people
who are eternally-committed to the mantra that "he can do no wrong",
even though being LIKE HIM
(according to the first book in the collection)
meant (experientially) "knowing both good and bad";
- which means he thought and did some "bad" stuff before he ever made humans.
But we're supposed to gaslight each other about that too.
---
Now, don't peek behind the curtain.
Because the Great And Powerful OZ
is just some random fallible guys
who created the larger-than-life IDEA of a
puppet king
to speak through;
while they pretend that "He" is real
and speaking through them.
But to make the whole thing seem legit, they've GLUED that MESS onto the otherwise simple idea of:
a DEIST creator existing.
-A proposition (or intuition) that "if true"
actually does NOTHING to legitimize the con they've built around it.
And if all of this still confuses you,
go watch the Youtube video titled "kissing hank's A___" ) word omitted so that Youtube's profanity filter doesn't incorrectly flag this post.
There are a few different variations of that video.
I prefer the one where the young adults are playing cards. But the classic version is nice too.
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