Why It's Untrue When Christians Claim "Historians Agree Jesus Existed".


1. There actually are qualified scholars who question if ordinary-man-Jesus ever actually existed. And their reasoning for questioning it ... are quite reasonable. I'd wager: In 20 years, mythicism will be the majority view. But of course, we'd have to wait 20 years to see if I'm correct about that shift (in academia) or not. 2. The "Jesus" whom most of the qualified scholars are saying existed ... is not the same figure/character/person/entity as the Christian "Jesus Christ". Historians are NOT saying that the Divine/Perfect/Godsent "Christ" existed. They nearly all agree that HE certainty did NOT exist. Only a scattering of very religious Christians whom hold the appropriate credentials ... will say he did exist. So when (most) historians say "Jesus existed", they are talking about a non-miraculous, fallible, obscure Jewish man ... who had some of the mundane elements of his life used as part of the template for the later-invented/imagined "Christ" of Christianity. They recognize zero (at best: near-zero) room for the Christian legends about the Christian Christ to have been true. If asked, they'll tell you (basically) "No. That figure is myth. He did not exist. But we think some (few) of the trivial mundane elements of the Christian-Christ myth were copied from a real person's life.". In other words, historians who say "Jesus existed" or "Jesus probably existed", are actually not providing an academic platform or bridge for Christians to support their mythical figure with. Every once in a while, someone like Bart Ehrman will stop to remind people of this very important fact. But religious people are typically dishonest. So they just ignore those reminders, and keep quoting the "Jesus probably existed" parts. It's like trying to prove Santa Clause existed by quoting historians who say Saint Nicholas existed. -Except that there is actually better evidence for Saint Nicholas of Myra than for Muggle-Jesus. Nor could any evidence or arguments for Muggle-Jesus ever really provide real support for claims about Magic-Jesus.

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