Religious "counselors" and the societal saboteurs who recruit, train, and promote them.
A FB add
from "EducationFinder
read as follows:
"Live in Indiana and love helping people? Sign up now to see how you can start your bachelor’s in applied psychology in as little as 1 month and on your own schedule:"
To this, I replied:
Religion has no place in clinical mental health practice.
It's like horoscopes and voodoo.
If a patient wants to talk about their religious theories, that's fine. But it's certainly not the job of clinical therapists to be "ministers" to their patients.
-----
To this, a Christian responded:
"if the patient is not a Christian, you might have an argument. However, good Christian counseling is discipleship, are you familiar with the Christian principle of discipleship?"
----------
To them, I replied:
"I am familiar, yes.
And if that's what someone wants, then fine.
I just don't think that should be done under the premise of clinical therapy.
If we had witch doctors here in America,
i'm betting we wouldn't legally allow them to promote their business as a "Doctor" until after they finished medical school."
--------
To that, they replied:
"I agree that transparency is completely required in any kind of treatment, medical or mental health. I know of doctors who prayed with their patients. But my problem with secular psychology is that they don’t heal, they only use treatments or medication that they can bill for. Christianity goes to the spiritual root of mental health issues. Therapy can sometimes help a person sort out problems, but the transforming power of Jesus changes a person from the inside out. There is no comparison. But if a person doesn’t have a relationship with Jesus, then the best they can do is try to feel a little better treating symptoms… and a really good therapist is sometimes able to do that (for a price$)
-----------------
To that, I replied:
Mike Reid I admit, I have a comparably negative view of secular clinical therapy.
The sciences of it are still in the early stages of development.
For the most part,
it's the medical equivalent of blood letting and leaches.
And I've seen it do more harm than good.
The statistics say they do help a lot of people, and to meaningful extents.
But the problems in that system are still so serious, that I hesitate to advise secular clinical therapy, for most situations.
That said, I don't subscribe to "the spiritual root of mental health issues".
If someone does, then ok.
I won't stand in their way;
same as I wouldn't interfere with someone trying to find a good witch doctor.
But I do believe that secular clinical mental health care is making meaningful advances; and that it's only a matter of time before they start to live up to people's thusfar unrealistic expectations.
-Same as how all other medical fields eventually began to provide well for a growing number of medical problems.
Part of that advancement
includes the realization that mental health care
IS physical care.
Mental health vs mental illness
are entire physiological matters.
Even the way social health impacts mental health ... is still a physical result.
Mental illness is the manifestation of problems in the brain and body; impacted (sometimes even directly caused) by dysfunctions in a person's physical habits and environment.
Restoring people's mental health
will require understanding and targeting those physical causes and their physiological effects.
The reason mental health sciences are so far behind other health sciences
is because of religion.
-Mostly because of Abrahamic religions.
Although, other spiritually-themed religions have had a comparable effect, on slowing the advancement of seeking and finding real causes and solutions.
For so many generations, even after the scientific revolution began,
religions pushed the narrative that mental illness was a manifestation of spiritual illness.
As a result:
Society's remained burdened with terrible stigmas about mental illness,
and a lack of support for rational scientific inquiry into the real causes of mental illness.
Also, so many people who suffered from mental illness were blamed for their own suffering, and thus not afforded true compassion from their family and friends.
They were told the real reason they were having those problems is because of things like:
being spiritually sick;
- because of not having correct-enough doctrines,
or
not having strong enough faith,
or
not having sufficient spiritual-hygiene (ie. needing more regular prayer, meeting attendance. or maybe they've been indulging in sinful thoughts).
This meant that people suffering were made to suffer even more; further worsening their existing mental illness.
Beyond that, those religious cultures were often the initial cause of mental illness;
as they often caused prolonged and signficant mental distress, and PTSD;
- which gradually damages people's brain.
So here we are today;
in a world plagued with mass shootings, domestic abuse, and so many other problems caused by various forms of mental incapacity ...
specifically because:
Mental health sciences are ill-equipped for prevention and treatment.
- Which is specifically because of:
Centuries of delay
in needed advancements;
because of:
The very same religions which now point to that lack of efficiency ... as a reason to keep diverting efforts and funds away from where it needs to go ... and into the churches;
perpetuating the same wasteful cycles of wasted opportunities ...
which those churches cleverly orchestrated in the first place.
One more way
that religions create societal decay,
and then feed off of it.
------------
For a video review of what it means to be a "Christian Counselor", click here.
------------
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=940954619884622&id=259321164714641&comment_id=942250656421685&reply_comment_id=959849941328423¬if_id=1636670422727732¬if_t=comment_mention&ref=notif
from "EducationFinder
read as follows:
"Live in Indiana and love helping people? Sign up now to see how you can start your bachelor’s in applied psychology in as little as 1 month and on your own schedule:"
To this, I replied:
Religion has no place in clinical mental health practice.
It's like horoscopes and voodoo.
If a patient wants to talk about their religious theories, that's fine. But it's certainly not the job of clinical therapists to be "ministers" to their patients.
-----
To this, a Christian responded:
"if the patient is not a Christian, you might have an argument. However, good Christian counseling is discipleship, are you familiar with the Christian principle of discipleship?"
----------
To them, I replied:
"I am familiar, yes.
And if that's what someone wants, then fine.
I just don't think that should be done under the premise of clinical therapy.
If we had witch doctors here in America,
i'm betting we wouldn't legally allow them to promote their business as a "Doctor" until after they finished medical school."
--------
To that, they replied:
"I agree that transparency is completely required in any kind of treatment, medical or mental health. I know of doctors who prayed with their patients. But my problem with secular psychology is that they don’t heal, they only use treatments or medication that they can bill for. Christianity goes to the spiritual root of mental health issues. Therapy can sometimes help a person sort out problems, but the transforming power of Jesus changes a person from the inside out. There is no comparison. But if a person doesn’t have a relationship with Jesus, then the best they can do is try to feel a little better treating symptoms… and a really good therapist is sometimes able to do that (for a price$)
-----------------
To that, I replied:
Mike Reid I admit, I have a comparably negative view of secular clinical therapy.
The sciences of it are still in the early stages of development.
For the most part,
it's the medical equivalent of blood letting and leaches.
And I've seen it do more harm than good.
The statistics say they do help a lot of people, and to meaningful extents.
But the problems in that system are still so serious, that I hesitate to advise secular clinical therapy, for most situations.
That said, I don't subscribe to "the spiritual root of mental health issues".
If someone does, then ok.
I won't stand in their way;
same as I wouldn't interfere with someone trying to find a good witch doctor.
But I do believe that secular clinical mental health care is making meaningful advances; and that it's only a matter of time before they start to live up to people's thusfar unrealistic expectations.
-Same as how all other medical fields eventually began to provide well for a growing number of medical problems.
Part of that advancement
includes the realization that mental health care
IS physical care.
Mental health vs mental illness
are entire physiological matters.
Even the way social health impacts mental health ... is still a physical result.
Mental illness is the manifestation of problems in the brain and body; impacted (sometimes even directly caused) by dysfunctions in a person's physical habits and environment.
Restoring people's mental health
will require understanding and targeting those physical causes and their physiological effects.
The reason mental health sciences are so far behind other health sciences
is because of religion.
-Mostly because of Abrahamic religions.
Although, other spiritually-themed religions have had a comparable effect, on slowing the advancement of seeking and finding real causes and solutions.
For so many generations, even after the scientific revolution began,
religions pushed the narrative that mental illness was a manifestation of spiritual illness.
As a result:
Society's remained burdened with terrible stigmas about mental illness,
and a lack of support for rational scientific inquiry into the real causes of mental illness.
Also, so many people who suffered from mental illness were blamed for their own suffering, and thus not afforded true compassion from their family and friends.
They were told the real reason they were having those problems is because of things like:
being spiritually sick;
- because of not having correct-enough doctrines,
or
not having strong enough faith,
or
not having sufficient spiritual-hygiene (ie. needing more regular prayer, meeting attendance. or maybe they've been indulging in sinful thoughts).
This meant that people suffering were made to suffer even more; further worsening their existing mental illness.
Beyond that, those religious cultures were often the initial cause of mental illness;
as they often caused prolonged and signficant mental distress, and PTSD;
- which gradually damages people's brain.
So here we are today;
in a world plagued with mass shootings, domestic abuse, and so many other problems caused by various forms of mental incapacity ...
specifically because:
Mental health sciences are ill-equipped for prevention and treatment.
- Which is specifically because of:
Centuries of delay
in needed advancements;
because of:
The very same religions which now point to that lack of efficiency ... as a reason to keep diverting efforts and funds away from where it needs to go ... and into the churches;
perpetuating the same wasteful cycles of wasted opportunities ...
which those churches cleverly orchestrated in the first place.
One more way
that religions create societal decay,
and then feed off of it.
------------
For a video review of what it means to be a "Christian Counselor", click here.
------------
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=940954619884622&id=259321164714641&comment_id=942250656421685&reply_comment_id=959849941328423¬if_id=1636670422727732¬if_t=comment_mention&ref=notif
Comments
Post a Comment