FAITH doesn't prove anything. Nor is it ever truly shared. It's merely personal bias and HOPE; dressed up as knowledge.



(written in reply to a religious debate, with a Christian fundamentalist)
 

I understand

that me not having "faith" in a thing
is not in-and-of-itself proof that the thing (any thing) is bad or wrong.

-just as:
you ~having~ faith in a thing
does not prove that thing is good or correct.

Instead,
verified facts,
and logical reasoning,
a profound sense of ~personal accountability~,
basic human decency,
and the freedom to fully, critically, think about the issues ...
are the things that reveal all of your religious claims to be:
at odds with facts, logical reasoning, and human health. 

Meanwhile,
in order for you to arrive at my conclusions, you'd have to know (and understand) a LOT of the things that
I know.

You'd also need fully developed skills of logical reasoning.
But that is not fostered in your religious culture; because it's incompatible and "dangerous".

There's just no way to ~give~ you all that.

Besides that, your brain is "religious devoted" to your worldview.

You ~perceive~ horrible consequences to losing your religious beliefs.

In that respect, it's like a hostage negotiation.

You are both the hostage
and
one of the people holding you hostage.

You also have a form of
(or, at the very least, something akin to:) Stockholm Syndrome.

So you don't actually want to be set free.

You think your faith assures you eternal bliss in a heavenly kingdom.
- And you think it protects you from an eternal hell.

So you're literally not "free" to honestly, critically examine the entire structure of your worldview.

I am.
I have nothing to lose by critically examining mine.
And I do exactly that, on a regular basis.

But you aren't free to do that.

The ~perceived~ risks are too great.
You won't risk it.

So even if we lived in some futuristic, super-science society, ... and I could just offer a quick transfer of all the needed data and logic-abilities into your brain, ...

you would refuse to download it, and you would refuse to objectively process it.

-And for the EXACT same reasons
people in your mental-state won't watch the videos I linked in the discussion.

But I watch apologetic videos made by Christians, and Muslims.

I watch debates between religious people, and between them an atheists.

I listen to Christian radio broadcasts.

I think deeply about the meaning of their words, and perspective, and their ~ways of thinking~, and the attitudes which those words convey.

And I think about the effects of those preachments on people's headspace, and relationships, and our larger world.

And I dive into many hours of research, about every issue they raise.

And I refuse to allow myself any indulgence of personal bias, in the course of research and critical analysis.

And I think about the history of those religions.

And I think about the individual ideas imbedded into the larger ideas.

But you can't do the same.
Because you don't want to risk exposure to ~dangerous knowledge~ that might cause you to "lose faith".

That's why any well-informed critic of your worldview
is wasting their time debating with religious fundamentalists (and moderates).

You've made a willful choice that you can't be reasoned with; because you think a "God" wants you to make that choice.

You could learn a lot from us. But you really really don't want to.

Meanwhile,
there's nothing new we can learn from you;
-but, ironically, we'd really really love to.

There's simply not a lot of depth to your position.

We don't have to dig very deep down into it, before uncovering all that defines it, and all that (badly) supports it.

All you have
is an impressively arbitrary, and anti-reasonable religious "faith".

Faith
isn't an argument.

It's also not a form of evidence.

It's just hope,

and a poorly supported bias,


and 
a sense of entitlement ... to be excused from the rational standards that humans apply to every other domain.


Even the assumption of sharing the same worldview as other Christians 
is just a convenient assumption.

I can assure you they hold to some religious and political ideas "as fact" ... that you would reject as ~wrong~, and would admit (at least, to yourself) ... ~really matters~.

---

Christianity isn't a religion.
It's a religious theme.

Just as "No Two People Have Ever Read The Same Book", ...
No two people have ever even mentioned the same "God".

You have much less in common with other Christians ... than you have assumed that you share.

You share religious language, and religious attitudes, and religious culture.

But you don't believe in the same "God". 

Religious language just makes it hard to notice crucial differences.

They're using the same words as you.

But the non-disclosed differences in doctrines,


and the differences in meanings for the words you use,


and non-communicate-able differences in nuance,
 
and the resonating character ... of the "God" you're mentally defining, feeling, and relating to, ...


puts you worlds apart from other "Christians". 

You are the only person in your religion.

You are the only person to have "experienced" your personal "God".

When another "Christian" mentions their Jesus or their "God", ... they are talking about someone different than yours. (clickable link)

Thus, they cannot really testify to yours.
Nor can you testify to theirs. 








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